Hello everyone!
So for the 1st time in quite a while I have a giant smile on my face! This is because I just left Walgreens in Northeastern Ohio and was told that they finally got in 180 units of generic Subutex, just for me So tomorrow I go into my doctor for my monthly visit with him, and get my Rx for generic Subutex. I'm starting this new thread to let everyone know exactly what it looks like, tastes like, the absorption, any new side effects, and anything else that comes up while on this new formulation. The cost of 84 (3x/ day: 28 day supply) is $207.00. That's a 60% discount on current prices at Sam's club, the lowest price for Suboxone in my area ($5.85/tablet). So tomorrow the test begins. It takes a lot of work to get this Rx, and some time to find a pharmacy that can get a generic. Anyone who pays for there own prescription and wishes to start saving some money, I suggest starting the process of calling around, and stopping into places, so by your next appointment with your doctor you can have everything ready to go. Any questions about anything, don't hesitate to P.M. me. _________________ JayJay Sober Since July 9th, 2008
great to hear jsp all of us here appreciate you taking the time to keep us posted next visit to my Dr. I'm gonna ask if it'd be alright for me to switch to generic since I'm about to be dropped from my parents health insurance sure hope he says it'll be ok if not I'm gonna be hella broke _________________ "I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly"
-Winston Churchill
I didn't even think you could take prescriptions of Subutex home. Isn't it just for clinical use? I don't think my doc would change me to generic subutex if I asked. I thought the nalaxone (or whatever it is called) was to help prevent abuse. Can you give me some more info on changing from Suboxone to generic Subutex?
jackolantern:
It seems that if you don't abuse drugs parentaly (shoot up) then there should be no problem switching from suboxone to subutex. A while back I was getting massive "thunderclap" migraine headaches and thought that I was sensitive to the naltrexone in the suboxone, so I called my doctor and he suggested switching to subutex, he made the call and I tried it out. The switch didn't help the migraines, and since subutex is more expensive I just switched back. Well now it's cheaper, so tomorrow I'm just going to ask him to switch me. Your doctor should do the same for you. I would call around and make sure that a pharmacy has it cheaper, then tell your doctor to switch you and if he says no then find a doctor that will.
Matt2:
Good luck man! Hope your doctor doesn't have a problem with the switch, let me know what happens
Later! _________________ JayJay Sober Since July 9th, 2008
Hey everyone! So I went to the doctors office today, and got a Rx for the subutex. The doctor told me that some doctors will be reluctant to prescribe subutex to patients, and my doc. even said that most of his patients will not be switched. It seems heroin addicts will NOT be getting subutex, also anyone who lies to the doctor, also will not get it. Also anyone who uses oxy or any other drug (morphine, Demerol) through the IV route, will not get the Rx. In fact I had a false positive for benzodiazpines for some reason and almost didn't get the Rx, but since I've always been completely honest with my doctor over the last year or so I got the script because he trusted me when I swore I haven't taken any Xanax, Valium, etc. The cost was around $2.44/tablet at Walgreen's, and they had it on hand because I've called them and made sure that it would be there today.
The size is the same size as suboxone, the difference is that it is round, and white.
The markings are : 54 411 with no score, *8mg ( I cut one with a pill cutter and it cut into 4's with no problems)
The taste: It tastes exactly like Subutex, the only difference is that it is a bit gritty, but the spit was clear not white like with subutex. Also when I took subutex I would put a dum-dum sucker in my mouth to make the taste better, although it's not really that bad.
Dissolving Rate: It seems much more dense than the brand names, yet it dissolves in about half the time as both brand name pills. Suboxone takes me around 15 minutes to dissolve from a whole pill, 20 if my mouth stays drier, and the generic took around eight to ten minutes.
Effectiveness: So far, so good! I'm sure it's going to take around 3 days for any differences to show up, but I haven't noticed any differences so far, if anything it seems to absorb better. I kinda have the same feeling right now (45min into dose) that I had the 1st couple months that I began treatment ( you all know what I mean by that right? the Honeymoon phase, The Pink Cloud) which I'm sure will go away after a couple days.
This is my first day, so I don't have too much more to say about it. Overall I see no problems switching, as long as you don't plan on abusing, or diverting your medication (please don't ruin this for us!!!!!)
On a sad note I lost my doctor today He is opening a new practice in a different area and focusing on addicts a lot more. I wish him luck with his new practice, and hope he helps a lot more people since he is a great doctor. I will be meeting with a new doctor that he set me up with, and I hope he is as trusting and helpful as Dr. S. Kinda sucks though, but if I've learned anything in the last year+, change is a good thing!
Any ? please post here, unless it's a private matter, in that case PM or e-mail me. I log on almost every day and will keep up with this evaluation for as long as it takes to enlighten everyone to this new, much cheaper, form of treatment _________________ JayJay Sober Since July 9th, 2008
Wow I slept hard last night. Had a dream too, very rare for me. Feel like I have a lot of energy today, haven't felt energetic in a long time. My mood seems to be better, I'm getting ready to go to work and usually I start thinking of reasons not to go, today I'm just happy to have a steady job. Also with suboxone I start getting a headache about an hour after my dose, so far today nothing. Other than that not much of a change from yesterday, it's going to be a few days before I know anything. Good luck everybody! Have a great day! _________________ JayJay Sober Since July 9th, 2008
Getting ready for work, gotta keep it short. Seems my mood is really improving! Colors seem brighter, walks with the dog seem more calming and enjoyable. My stress level at work seems to be better also. Some of this is coming from the fact that all my money isn't gone, some from the fact that I have one less chemical in my blood stream. The pills are getting annoying with there bad taste, been putting a small sucker in my cheek while the pill dissolves, doesn't seem to affect absorption at all. In fact I think that the generic absorbs better than the brand, I've found myself taking 8mg less/day and having not effect what so ever. Makes me wonder if R&B makes there pills to have poor bio-availability to make consumers buy more pills...hmm. Also after keeping the solution of bupe/spit in my mouth for a couple minutes there is not really any taste at all, and no trace of the pill what so ever. Seems as though much more than 50-60% is getting in my blood stream. Off to work...later fellow recovering friends! _________________ JayJay Sober Since July 9th, 2008
Day 7:
Nothing to write about really. Seems that everything is in the up and up with the generic. Having some constipation issues, any advice for that would be great. I've tried all the usual things, pills, eating more fiber, water water water, moving around, etc it's becoming really bothersome. I go but not what I should be and there is huge effort and almost no reward (if you know what I mean) When I was using I had no problems, in fact I've never had a problem until now. All the advice so far hasn't helped and would appreciate someone helping me out on this one. Later _________________ JayJay Sober Since July 9th, 2008
This may have already been suggested here and you may have already tried it but here it goes:::In the hospital setting, when we had a patient who was real clogged up, the doctor would order the usual - stool softener twice a day(Colace), Metamucil once or twice a day, and if no 'results' after a couple of days of that, we'd have to give them a dulcolax suppository (fun) and sometimes an enema (fun) Okay the nurses, preferring not to put themselves nor the patient through the latter two options would often have the patient down a large glass of warm prune juice. It actually worked a lot of the time. If you haven't already, it would be worth a try!
Happy toileting!!
And thank you for your generic Sub reviews!
Noticing that less is more. 16mg/day seems to be exactly the same as 24mg/day brand. I know that most people can't tell the difference between the 2 as it is, but every time I've tried after a few days I notice cravings coming and stress levels going up, and depression setting in. What's cool is that for the 1st time in a long time I have some money in my checking account, not a lot but anything is better than nothing, and that feels good. I finally feel like I can start moving forward in life, no longer in buprenorphine purgatory. Has anyone else switched to the generic? If so how is it going for you? Please feel free to add whatever you would like to this thread, any input would be appreciated. Don't forget the lunch meeting tomorrow, Thursday the 19th of November, 1pm EST!! _________________ JayJay Sober Since July 9th, 2008
Found this while hunting for a cheaper way to get the generic...........http://www.patientassistance.com/D9344-buprenorphine-hcl-sublingual-coupon.html Good luck everyone and hope it does you same good, going to try it next time I pick up a refill let you all know if it works. CANT HURT!!! _________________ JayJay Sober Since July 9th, 2008
Hey whats happenin....jay I think??......i have been reading loads of threads here and have followed your "generic" threads very closely, but only as of today as this is when I found them! I wanna thank you and especially Dr. J for making this by far the most helpful sub site i have seen after 6 months of research. It is SOO refreshing to here from a down to earth HUMAN BEING like Dr. J and hear that everybody is human, unlike the popular belief of so many dr.s out there.......
I am an addict who has severe pain probs and been opiate tolerant since 2000-2001. Not the place for complete history so here is a quickie..............during college dr. scared of abusse, so never dosed correctly even after many attempts telling him to change.....tried numerous other means of pain relief besides narcotics.....eventually moved to " the contins" (oxy etc....) and above but then he wouldnt accommodate my tolerance (excuse spelling please!) . I then self medicated and got out of control and could not regain again. Finaly may-ish 2009 I started research on suboxone, bupe, etc and figured it would be much better than what I was doing. I understand the full and partial agoinist, and affinity factors/benefits of bupe and well...since 6/20/2009 I am clean because of it and have NEVER abused it even tho 1st dr. looking back, should have been a reason to abuse it or use again, but for some reason I didnt and moved on...
1st Dr. was a joke... all for the money, hate to be so critical but it is so freakin true, at least with him. Found another dr., 225 mile round trip, who is awesome, but it is very expensive to go there (take time from my business=money lost) plus my truck gets like 10 mpg, bridge/tolls (outta state) and then the script and $100 dr visit. Problem is, is that he is in an area which has very high IV usage and I believe he is reluctant in prescribing subutex. I just found out bout the generic from your threads today but will look into the pharmacies by the dr. to check into the pricing. I personally love the taste of suboxone, and would love the price if could save what you have saved.........rite aid is $6.50 per suboxone so even if it didnt taste like suboxone I would get used to a bitter tasting subutex for money being saved!!
Any advice onto how I should go about talking to dr. to switch to subutex. I never IV'd, all though have piled massive amounts of opioids into me when I was abusing and dont know if this will scare him away from the idea. Any help would be much appreciated, thanks so much!!! Bill
I also want to add that I know there are many dr. locators online and I have tried many. Plus I am really comfortable with my current dr. and desire not to change from him.......also where I live it is rather difficult to find a dr. who knows what they are doing, arent all for the profits of my problem, and support the idea of long term bupe maint......thanks dude!
firse time I switced it was from massave headaches. The doctor told me tat a lot of peoplr whom have that side effect SHOULD be switched. Also just tell him/her tat it is was cheaper and te same thing. you won't sell it on te stret, and you won'r shoot it so I don'r how why tey wouldn;t _________________ JayJay Sober Since July 9th, 2008
THIS IS MY LAST POST FOR A WHILE, SORRY ABOUT THE MEETINGS I FEEL REALLY BAD. tHE OTHER NIGHT AT WORK i SLIPPED AND FELL, i HIT MY HEAD...REALLY HARD AND i COULDN'T ANSWER QUESTIONS, AND WAS SLURRING MY SPEECH (FROM WHAT i HEAR) I WAS TOLD BY ONE OF THE MANAGERS TO JUST GOT HOME. NOT OFFER A RIDE, NOT CALL SOMEONE I KNOW, JUST LET ME DRIVE. NEXT DAY I USUALLY WORK 9 OR MORE HOURS ON A SATURDAY, YESTERDAY NOT EVEN 4. i told them i would take all the tests they wanted and nothing, When I got home that night my parents wondered why Iw was home, and why I was still having a hard time talking, I explained and buth thought it was drugs. I never act like tat on drugs so wy now, sober. Well I tried to tell my story and clear tings up so next thing I know i'm packing a small bag and sleeping in the car, after being punched in the face. Well I did take a couple xanax today to make it to work, figured if everybody "KNOWS THAT I STILL DO DRUGS" that what the hell. Also I was tol my my father, stop treatment, or get out. I told him tat if I leave homeless and dead, and if I stop treament i'm dead, mutch quicker
B.T.W., PLEASE HELP ME I WANT TO USE AND KEEP USING UNTILL I'M DEAD. PLEASE HELP, TALK TO MOM/DAD, ANYTING???????????????PLEASE HELP _________________ JayJay Sober Since July 9th, 2008
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Generic Buprenorphine Review
So tomorrow I go into my doctor for my monthly visit with him, and get my Rx for generic Subutex. I'm starting this new thread to let everyone know exactly what it looks like, tastes like, the absorption, any new side effects, and anything else that comes up while on this new formulation. The cost of 84 (3x/ day: 28 day supply) is $207.00. That's a 60% discount on current prices at Sam's club, the lowest price for Suboxone in my area ($5.85/tablet). So tomorrow the test begins. It takes a lot of work to get this Rx, and some time to find a pharmacy that can get a generic. Anyone who pays for there own prescription and wishes to start saving some money, I suggest starting the process of calling around, and stopping into places, so by your next appointment with your doctor you can have everything ready to go. Any questions about anything, don't hesitate to P.M. me.
He is opening a new practice in a different area and focusing on addicts a lot more. I wish him luck with his new practice, and hope he helps a lot more people since he is a great doctor. I will be meeting with a new doctor that he set me up with, and I hope he is as trusting and helpful as Dr. S. Kinda sucks though, but if I've learned anything in the last year+, change is a good thing!
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