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                                        <title>Just needing some Help</title>
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                                      &lt;b&gt;Author:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href='http://suboxforum.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=11868'&gt;furyknight&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      &lt;b&gt;Posted:&lt;/b&gt; Tue Jun 18, 2013 7:00 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      I was wondering if i should be upfront with my doctor about my suboxone.. I accidently swallowed my sub film a couple of days.. This is my first mounth of having a month supply and running 4 short i havent sold any of my suboxone and have not done any other drug besides suboxones. Should i call my doctor and tell them what happened our just wait out for my appointment. which is two days but im already feeling bad.. i took my last one yesterday and this is day one without any.</description>
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                                        <title>Need Buprenorphine Doc in Seattle/Bellevue/Issaquah WA.</title>
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                                      &lt;b&gt;Author:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href='http://suboxforum.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=538'&gt;Dason&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      &lt;b&gt;Posted:&lt;/b&gt; Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:51 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      I am 5 years stable on 8mg buprenorphine, with no history of illicit drug use or IV use.  I prefer Subutex to Suboxen as the latter gives me a low grade headache. Im exchange for my doc writing scripts for Bupe instead of the FDA preferred Suboxen, I am subjected to more urine tests.  I understand that it is easier to subvert and that they want to be careful to avoid writing script that go to the street.&lt;br /&gt;
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The problem is that I have had to relocate to the East side of the Seattle area and need a new doc.  But everyone I call wants to put me on Suboxen and wont write Subutex scripts.  Despite being stable and knowing what i need for my own health, everyone has a preconcieved treatment plan.&lt;br /&gt;
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Does anyone have a recommendation for me in the Seattle area?  I prefer an out of network doc that will LISTEN to a well documented history of what works for me.</description>
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                                        <pubDate>Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:51 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Long term side effects of Buprenorphine?</title>
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                                      &lt;b&gt;Author:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href='http://suboxforum.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=3264'&gt;Romeo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      &lt;b&gt;Posted:&lt;/b&gt; Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:48 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      Nicole, you don't have to apologize. I can be quite the smart ass sometimes (OK, a LOT of the time!!  &lt;img src=&quot;images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Very Happy&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt; ) and I shouldn't have said what I did. Sorry dude.</description>
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                                        <title>cold sweats, nausea, light-headedness on suboxone</title>
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                                      &lt;b&gt;Author:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href='http://suboxforum.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=11867'&gt;markied&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      &lt;b&gt;Posted:&lt;/b&gt; Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:07 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      Hi, I've been on 4 mg of Suboxone a day for about six months now, and I've been experiencing sudden onsets of nausea, cold sweats, and light-headedness for a couple months. Also the typical cold sweats at night though I thought that would be done by now. But these nausea/cold sweat attacks usually happen randomly all throughout the day, though I've noticed I'm more prone to them while eating or after. It lasts about ten to twenty minutes. I've talked to my suboxone doctor about it and he said some people are more prone to sweating on subs but the medicine they would prescribe for it had even more uncomfortable side effects so its not worth it, but I don't think he understands how severe or debilitating it could be. I don't get much time to speak with him either as he works at a clinic. There is also the possibilty its not suboxone related but I was just wondering if anyone else has experienced this. Thanks.&lt;br /&gt;
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- Markie</description>
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                                        <title>Insurance coverage for my suboxone strips</title>
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                                      &lt;b&gt;Author:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href='http://suboxforum.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=11558'&gt;Kitty36&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      &lt;b&gt;Posted:&lt;/b&gt; Tue Jun 18, 2013 5:44 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      I think most insurances have limits on the quantity of medications that they will pay for. My insurance will only pay for 90 strips within a 30 day period. If for some reason I needed more, they wouldn't pay for it.</description>
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                                        <author>Kitty36</author>
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                                        <title>Danyellmmc1's Taper Thread -Updated Often!</title>
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                                      &lt;b&gt;Author:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href='http://suboxforum.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=10034'&gt;Danyellmcc1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      &lt;b&gt;Posted:&lt;/b&gt; Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:40 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      So I'm on day 8 yay!! But I'm dreading the night time. How long do you think RLS will stick around?</description>
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                                        <pubDate>Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:40 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Doc thinks I slipped .... but I didn't!</title>
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                                      &lt;b&gt;Author:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href='http://suboxforum.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=11558'&gt;Kitty36&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      &lt;b&gt;Posted:&lt;/b&gt; Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:12 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      Something similar happened to me. Every month I take a urine drug test at quest labs. At my May sub appointment my doctor told me I tested positive for amphetamines. I've never taken amphetamines in my life. I had just started taking Wellbutrin a few weeks earlier (prescribed by this same doctor) and I asked if that could be it, since that was the only thing different I had done from any other month. He said absolutely not. He said maybe it was a lab error, but if it happens again I won't be able to keep treating you. As soon as I got home I looked online and found tons of links saying that Wellbutrin can cause false positives for amphetamines. It even said so on my medication guide that I got from the pharmacy.  So I spent the last month being equally pissed off and scared that it would happen again. He did order additional tests that month. I did the usual urine test to check my sub levels, and I had blood taken to check my klonopin and Wellbutrin levels. At my appointment last week he said everything was fine, that I was 'clean' this time. Asked what I did different. I told him I did nothing different and I showed him a bunch of documents I had printed out about the false positive thing. One of them was by the FDA even. He finally admitted it was possible, that the Wellbutrin had probably caused it. He said that from now on if it happens once in a while he'll understand. But if I were to keep coming up positive that would be a problem. So I'm still a little nervous. Hopefully it won't keep happening. But if it does I'll insist on more specific testing. Because I know I'm right. I don't want to have to switch doctors cuz it's not easy finding one who takes insurance, has a therapist there in the same office (my insurance requires that I see a therapist) and they also work around me and my husband's work schedules. It's an hour away but it's worth the drive. Anyway, I just wanted to relate my story. Most of these tests are not completely accurate and I think false positives are a pretty frequent occurance. Knowing this, I don't think it's right for doctors to blindly trust these tests, instead of trusting their patients and trying to figure out what caused the problem. I know we're addicts, and addicts tend to lie when in active addiction. But we're on suboxone because we wanted to stop all the lying, and change our lives for the better. Our doctors should know that, and put a little more faith in us, and not those stupid unreliable tests.</description>
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                                        <author>Kitty36</author>
                                        <pubDate>Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:12 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>New Here</title>
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                                      &lt;b&gt;Author:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href='http://suboxforum.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=11785'&gt;ZoSoRags&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      &lt;b&gt;Posted:&lt;/b&gt; Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:50 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      WoW…Really Sorry about the hassle you had to go through! specially that one person!!  and then it sounds like they got everyone else on your case when You were trying to do the right thing!! SHEESH…Sorry to hear this…I would stay away from that person as much as possible because it doesn’t sound like their heard is in the right place and they want to make things worse on You!! &lt;br /&gt;
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No, This shot/pill does NOT put you in w/d it, so to speak closes the door all the way…You have no opiate cravings. This is completly up to the person. They will NOT make you do it. I have a long way to go before I even need to think about this. I need to get do to 1 ta 2 mg of Subox before this stage. I really like my Subox Doc. It was the mind bender that came in before I talked to her that was the ass. When I go in tomorrow to see her, I hope he doesn’t even try to come and talk to me. If he does I won’t be near as nice and forthcoming to him with my info.&lt;br /&gt;
 Good Luck!!</description>
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                                        <pubDate>Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:50 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>laugh a little</title>
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                                      &lt;b&gt;Author:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href='http://suboxforum.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=11336'&gt;BeautifulDisaster&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      &lt;b&gt;Posted:&lt;/b&gt; Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:37 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      qhorse-i honestly thought there was some poor guy out there in a full-body cast that had to eat his meals through a straw...lol&lt;br /&gt;
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apparently this vid was used in an ad for sprite with the tagline &amp;quot;friendship is overrated&amp;quot;</description>
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                                        <pubDate>Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:37 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Day 5 Subutex WD</title>
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                                      &lt;b&gt;Author:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href='http://suboxforum.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=11844'&gt;musiclover&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      &lt;b&gt;Posted:&lt;/b&gt; Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:36 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      Hey Al! Not just old timers love The Beatles &amp;amp; Eagles! I'm in love with both bands &amp;amp; I'm 25. &lt;br /&gt;
I'm sorry your wife doesn't understand. Maybe bring up some of the people's posts in here and let her see how EVERYONE who comes off of subs experience. You're doing the right thing in cutting down. Maybe it was too high of a jump? You should feel normal, or suboxone normal, if you're tapering down correctly. I felt great on 2 small pieces probably .35 each in the morning &amp;amp; at night. I thought that was a HUGE jump and was the lowest I could come down off of, but I was wrong! I'm WDing badly as well. But if you read my posts, I feel 80% better than I did Days 1-3 and even 4! I feel pretty great comparatively. &lt;br /&gt;
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Maybe consider taking a bigger piece for a little while, then once you feel good on that, jump down again?</description>
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                                        <pubDate>Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:36 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>I posted earlier, but in the wrong place! Day 3 no sub.</title>
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                                      &lt;b&gt;Author:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href='http://suboxforum.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=11486'&gt;Thegreatestislove&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      &lt;b&gt;Posted:&lt;/b&gt; Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:07 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      I really appreciate the video, anything to inspire me to keep pushing through is a true blessing. The part about being spoiled really resonated with me as well. I have always had my family there to catch me and I know some people have no one. I Thank God for my Family everyday. If it were'nt for them I do not know where I would be today. I learned some real lessons in the past few years and Those are what I will take with me once I put this Pain of wd behind me. &lt;br /&gt;
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    I do feel a lil better today and yes it is encouraging. Yesterday was the worst day so far. It could go back or forward, I am not sure, but I do know I will fight my way through it. Whatever this brings is nothing compared to the pain my brother is going through everyday, He has acute myeloid leukemia. He is seven years older than me, He was so healthy, He is a Preacher. He is my world, Thank God for people like my Brother. His name is Terry so if anyone would like to pray for him please send one up. I went two years ago to Houston Texas Cancer Treatment Center and gave him my stem cells. I had my pelvic bones punctured 114 times in order to get out enough bone marrow to draw the stem cells from. We were a PERFECT MATCH, but He still got Graft vs Host diesease and I Hurt to my core, down in My bones the pain goes so deep because we had prayed so hard that my gift would be the cure, and things just did'nt go that way. It is a miracle He is still alive, and I have no idea how much time I have left with Him. So I think about Him during the roughest times in my own life and it humbles me. He has been suffering for three years now Everyday, (imagine that). This is NOTHING compared to the pain He endures and pushes through with a smile no less. He is a true inspiration. &lt;br /&gt;
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                   Today my wds are sweating of course, and yawning a lot, I feel run down kinda like I have the flu. I laughed out loud at you Romeo, baby wipes on a raw butt, priceless! Love it! You guys really help me, Thank you Beautiful and Romeo. You guys are the best. For you to still be helping people now that you are off subs is really awesome Romeo. You are doing a wonderful thing, hope you know that!!! Check in with you guys later!</description>
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                                        <pubDate>Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:07 pm</pubDate>
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                                      &lt;b&gt;Author:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href='http://suboxforum.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2119'&gt;Bboy42287&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      &lt;b&gt;Posted:&lt;/b&gt; Tue Jun 18, 2013 1:57 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      Hurting hard guys. My gf of a year and a half sends me a text message saying my family is having problems and I need space but we can be friends. I'm so lost we didn't have a fight I didn't cheat on her or ever physically/mentally abuse her. The last time we hung out we had an amazing time went to the science museum it had the body art exhibit she slept over. Than she starts a new job we barely see each other her sister is a junkie and relapsed after getting out of a six month inpatient joint. Her dad is very controlling he says jump shed say how high. But after a year and a half you brake up with someone just bc your sister is a junkie? I think her dad blamed my gf for her sister fucking up and if she didn't spend so much time with me this wouldn't of happen maybe? And if she kept seeing me he would take her out the will he's very wealthy and uses that over her all the time. I don't know I'm so heart broken and all I do is cry I mean we talked about spending the rest of our life together all the time. Maybe silly but we already had our kids names picked out and so on.... All I want to do is get high I feel so worthless and like its all my fault. I didn't do anything wrong why throw away a year and a half of nothing but great memory's and times for no real reason that I can figure out.</description>
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                                        <author>Bboy42287</author>
                                        <pubDate>Tue Jun 18, 2013 1:57 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Need suboxone doc in Indianapolis that take medicaid!!!!</title>
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                                      &lt;b&gt;Author:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href='http://suboxforum.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=3656'&gt;rule62&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      &lt;b&gt;Posted:&lt;/b&gt; Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:48 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      I guess no one knew of any doctors that take medicaid where you live.  That will be a tough one.  One of the common complaints we get is that people cannot find a doctor who will just take insurance much less medicaid.&lt;br /&gt;
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All I can recommend is that you apply for the patient assistance program.  Go to NAABT to find out more.&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry we weren't of much help.  Keep trying, don't give up!</description>
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                                        <author>rule62</author>
                                        <pubDate>Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:48 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Discharged from PM suboxone treatment for early appointment</title>
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                                      &lt;b&gt;Author:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href='http://suboxforum.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=3656'&gt;rule62&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      &lt;b&gt;Posted:&lt;/b&gt; Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:42 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      IMO, it was because you were going to a pain management doctor instead of a GP or Internist, etc.  Try to find a family doctor who is authorized to give out Suboxone.  The Dr. I go to now is a family doctor just like the one I left in another city.  They seem to be a bit more understanding IMO.  Plus, the PM doctor is at risk all the time for over prescribing.  They are probably scrutinized all the time and must be very careful about who they prescribe to.  Once again, just my opinion.&lt;br /&gt;
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The only question I asked of both my doctors was if they were addiction specialists.  That point can be argued but they sure help a lot of addicts.  Now let's see if you can find one that will work more closely on your addiction.  You did say maybe a psychiatrist would help and I agree.  One that is trained on Suboxone treatment would be great if you can find one.&lt;br /&gt;
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I do hope you find a lot of choices where you live.  It all depends on the city.  Mine is large so there are a lot of choices for me.  Others don't have that luxury and have to settle with whatever is within driving distance.&lt;br /&gt;
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Let us know how it works out for you.</description>
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                                        <pubDate>Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:42 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Hi i'm new!!!</title>
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                                      &lt;b&gt;Author:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href='http://suboxforum.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=3264'&gt;Romeo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      &lt;b&gt;Posted:&lt;/b&gt; Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:15 am&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      Hi Matt,&lt;br /&gt;
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Welcome to the forum!!!&lt;br /&gt;
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Congratulations on 17 months clean, that's awesome!!!</description>
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                                        <author>Romeo</author>
                                        <pubDate>Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:15 am</pubDate>
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