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Author: donewithitall
Posted: 04/28 02:07 PM
Well, its been 10 hrs since I took my dosage of 2mg and still feel good without any issues. Hopefully, I finally found my dosage. Still feel it, so i had increased from my. 5mg per dose, which was total of 1mg per day to 2mg. It seems to have fixed my issues from the last 4 days. I take it, I put myself into wd's from changing it too much. But I'm ok for now which helps me out with my feelings and that in return seems to have helped my anxiety.
I had been thinking maybe I needed more the first two weeks due to quiting the pills, after thosee got out of my system, the sub in return knocked the hell outta me at 4mg dosage. I'm no expert just a pill taker, well, let me rephrase that, "Was a pill taker". I've been off for 28 days now, its been good and bad but damn sure worth it IMO.
I'm going to make it until the morning and take 2mg when I get up since I still feel great from the 2mg this morning. I'll let you all know how it goes. But I think your insight into it has made me realize I had set myself into wd's thru the last 3 to 4 days with the. 5mg twice a day. Hell, that sux knowing I didn't have to feel like that but like I stated, I'm fairly new at this, so I know now not to lower my dosage too much.
I'm staying on 2mg but should I ask my doc for 2mg tablets? This cutting isn't too precise so I could cause it again with my bad cutting, accidentally taking 3 while wanting it to be 2mg. Do you think that would be best?
Thanks again for your input, I put myself through wd's but not anymore thanks to you guys info
Thanks again!!!!!!!
Author: Taurus
Posted: 04/28 02:27 PM
Hi donewithitall - That's great that you found out that you just needed another mg to make you feel better! As far as asking for the 2mg strips...you could, but from what I've heard, they are about the same price as the 8mg strips. You could call your pharmacy to confirm this, but if that's the case, you would be getting a lot more sub for the same price if you stuck with the 8mg ones, and it shouldn't be too hard to cut them since you only have to cut them into fourths, and not tiny pieces.
Since you are at 2mg now, and since the subs have such a long half life, I don't think it will make too much difference if your strips that you cut are not exactly the same size. At least you know for sure that you will still be getting exactly 8mg every 4 days if you use 1 strip for 4 days, even if your pieces that you cut are not exactly the same size each day...just try to get them as close as possible and don't worry too much about it.
But if you think the 2mg strips would work better, and if you have insurance to pay for it anyway, it's up to you. I just wanted to warn you about the price before your next appt Monday, so you are not surprised. Hope you still feel good later and tomorrow!
Author: donewithitall
Posted: 04/28 03:16 PM
Taurus, thanks for the info, you make a valid point, I can eaisly cut into fourths. The other was rough, with the 16th but it also sent me into withdrawls. I felt horrible the last 4 days and I'm 100% sure it was due to the drastic decrease in Sub i did, not on purpose but now I know.
I had struggled with why was I taking something that made me feel this bad, I was about to stop which would've been stupid. But at least I figured out why I was all over the spectrum with moods, body and everything else.
I want to greatfully thank all of you again, I was flipping out, I'm new, so bare with me but I think my dosage is straight now.
I'll keep you all posted on my progress but 11hrs and holding off the 2mg but I think I may have made the 2mg work because of the 4 complete days at 1mg and withdrawls.
I feel so much better about this situation now than the last 96 hrs on the roller coaster. Just had no idea I caused it til I woke up this morning in utter pain and thought it was withdrawls and hatmaker knew it was
Thanks for your knowledge and support
Author: donewithitall
Posted: 04/28 03:30 PM
I do have 1 question for you all since I'm new at this :
Is there anything I can take for a hacking cough? I can wait and ask my Dr on Monday but this has been 2 weeks, I believe its from sinuses and not the Sub's since I've got it every year at this time of the year. I am just wondering, this cough is getting old but I can wait and see what he says.
I know you can't just start taking stuff while on sub but I would love to get rid of this coughing / sinus issues. I haven't taken anything since starting this med, too scared and know many things can and will cause serious issues while on suboxone.
Thanks again 
Author: Taurus
Posted: 04/28 03:31 PM
You're welcome! Once you get down to such a low dose, I think you can really feel each drop. I've tapered down quite a bit since I got on subs, and never really felt much difference, even dropping it a whole mg or two at a time. But once I got below the 3mg mark, I could feel even a .25mg decrease. So I raised my dose back up to what my body was comfortable with.
If/when you do taper, you should probably try it the way Dr. Junig and most people here recommend...long and slow. That way you won't go through having those withdrawals again! Hopefully you found the dose that works for you.
Author: donewithitall
Posted: 04/29 07:13 AM
Its day 2 at 2mg, so far so good. I didn't sleep good last night but still got a couple of hrs, think it was from increase since I've been able to sleep so far while on Sub. I'm starting to feel much better about the place I'm at right now. I'm going to gradually taper off as soon as I get STABLE FIRST..Think being stable is best before doing anything. I might add, I've had many surgeries over my life and had to take meds, I can honestly say this is the strongest thing I've ever taken by far.
One thing it does to me but isn't an huge issue, as soon as the film dissolves, my stomach goes growling, aching a little, could that be from the naloxone or whatever is with the sub?
I greatly appreciate all of your knowledge about sub, I'll be letting you all know and ask about the best taper schedule since I am clueless about sub. But like I stated, STABILIZE FIRST, then prepare for the future. Btw, I know my Dr is going to tell me I need the 3 8mg subs, which I don't want to get pissed off from but how do I go about telling him I want off, he made the statement I'll need that much due to my previous addiction. But looking, this is way more than the other I was even taking and 10x stronger.
This will be appt #3, I've got insurance and it paid for it but I've still paid out of pocket $280 and they said it will be used for future viisits, so he is gonna want me to stay on it due to money. I told them last time, my insurance sent you a check from the induction, why am I still paying for the visit when I should have a $175 toward upcoming visits which I pay a $25 copay. It got their attention because they were talking about before I even got out of the office, I could still hear them, DA's
but thanks for your support!!!
Author: hatmaker510
Posted: 04/29 07:24 AM
Donewithitall - I'm so happy to hear you're doing so much better than a few days ago. I know it's easy to just say that, but I really mean it. You must have come here feeling so helpless and now you have control over things so you must feel SO MUCH BETTER NOW, in a few ways.
I think your plan to stabilize first then do a taper plan is a solid one. Ensure that you give yourself plenty of time to do a slow taper. Even though you're only on 2 mg, remember that you're going to taper down into the micrograms before stopping altogether (because as you said, it is VERY strong), so give yourself plenty of time to wean off. If you push yourself to go too fast, it will only serve to increase your suffering.
As for your doctor and his pushing 24 mg on you....it's hard to say how to handle that; it's really up to you. You can be honest with him and try to get him to accept that you only need 2 mg (sounds easier said than done with him) or just take what he gives you and save the extras. That would give you plenty of extra sub to use to taper off. Or to last you in between doctors. It's always good to have a back stock in case of emergencies. (At least most of us do that.)
You obviously know your doctor and I don't. Use your best judgment and advocate for your needs with him. Good luck and let us know how it turns out. Again, I'm so glad that you found the right dose for you. Happy happy, joy joy.
Author: donewithitall
Posted: 04/29 08:02 AM
Hatmaker, thank you for realizing I was in withdrawl, I swear I was about to lose it. But it was me juming from 6mg (3mg twice a day) to 1mg (16th twice a day) . I realize that now but I'm stable at 2mg once a day so far, I'm going to keep my fingers crossed!
Anyway, I'll let the dr give me what he wants, I know I'll have to do this on my own anyway, the Dr is in the business of keeping patients, at least this one is. The whole 96 hr rollercoaster ride was all due to the harsh dropoff on my part, so I know more now about sub than i did a month ago, that's for sure.
I'll keep what he gives me and lockup for my taper. I've got to ask you for your opinion, I'm off all week for July 4th, is that too soon to taper down in your mind? There is no wrong answer, I just have to have time to go thru most wd's and not miss work. Or I'm off the entire Xmas week.
The reason I'm asking, you guys know more about this but either week is when I need to go thru most of the wd symptons and eack time, I've got 11 days off of work.
I know its way early thinking about stopping but I can't miss work and want off sub, so that's my 2 options so I can be home to go thru the wd symptons, or at least start and hopefully not too bad with PAWS.
THANKS AGAIIN!
med for cough
Author: anxiousSN
Posted: 05/02 02:56 PM
| donewithitall wrote: |
I do have 1 question for you all since I'm new at this :
Is there anything I can take for a hacking cough? I can wait and ask my Dr on Monday but this has been 2 weeks, I believe its from sinuses and not the Sub's since I've got it every year at this time of the year. I am just wondering, this cough is getting old but I can wait and see what he says.
I know you can't just start taking stuff while on sub but I would love to get rid of this coughing / sinus issues. I haven't taken anything since starting this med, too scared and know many things can and will cause serious issues while on suboxone.
Thanks again |
donewithitall, the best thing to do is to ask the pharmacist that you bought the sub from b/c they will know what might react with your subs and other meds you are on. Make sure they know you are on subs. You don't want anything sedating for sure b/c of respiratory depression. Delsym cough suppresssant contains no alcohol and is made ironically by Reckitt Benckiser, the makers of suboxone. It might be a good choice, but ask the pharmacist first. Hope this helps.
Sherry... From suboxforum.com